their neighborhood. what a wonder. it's what made us great. what a country and we can have it again. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" tonight from new york. these stories are hitting "my hot buttons" and on the table at this hour. wannabe house speaker john boehner. the wizard behind the pledge to america says the american people aren't ready for solutions. how about that? i'm ready to give him a few words on my mind coming up in a moment. governor chris christie, he's the biggest threat to our nation's scschools. when he's not yelling at people at town hall meetings and trimming the fat at expense of our teachers, i'm doing my part for nbc's education notion.

the false prophet glenn beck is freaking out about dangerous killers coming from the left. his rhetoric is what's dangerous and it needs to stop. this is the story that has me fired up tonight. john boehner has been out in the sun just probably a little bit too long, hasn't he? the tan man is flustered and back pedalling on his pledge to america. the republicans' so-called new governing agenda to set a different course for the country is nothing but a garbage sale. american people aren't buying it. after 20 months of offering no ideas, he and his cronies laid out their playbook for the american people. late last week he sounded pretty confident. >> the american people are speaking out like never before. they're concerned about the future of our nation, and the future for their children. they see a government in washington that isn't listening, doesn't get it, and frankly, the american people think that washington doesn't really care.

we're here today to put forth a new governing agenda built by listening to the american people, that offers a new way forward. >> you know, that sound bite was from last week. i can't get enough of it. i told you his 21 page pledge to america, wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. the tan man proved me right fox news sunday. chris wallace asked him about solutions. >> let's not get to the potential solutions. let's make sure americans understand how big the problem is. then we can begin to talk about possible solutions and then work ourselves into those solutions that are doable. >> boehner can't even give a straight answer on fox news, after months of waiting he says the pledge was only just to lay out the problems. here's a good place to start, mr. boehner. you. you are the problem. boehner has the nerve to say that americans aren't ready for solutions? it's pretty clear the tan man was thinking more about his

handicap and where to catch rays instead of developing a real agenda for america. boehner's sidekick, mike pence, caved when asked if there's anything new about the plague on america. >> what we have in this proposal is not necessarily new. the idea of fiscal responsibility, pro-growth policies, openness and transparency in government are solid american ideas. >> not necessarily new. i just want to make sure i got that written down. boehner and his crew, they don't want to talk about solutions. even though, as think progress found, his own pledge states, "we recognize these solutions are ambitious." the pledge also states republicans will fight to promote and advance solutions. john boehner, you know what he is? he's a cheater. he's cheating the american public every time he opens his mouth and offers nothing but the word, no. he cheated people out of

unemployment benefit, jobs, health care reform and decent chance at the american dream. look at the housing market. have they done anything to help it out? president obama is hammering the republicans over the pledge. >> the republicans who want to take over congress offered their own ideas the other day. many were the very same policies that led to the economic crisis in the first place. which isn't surprising since many of their leaders were among the architects of that failed policy. >> boehner and his posse of young guns never want to talk solutions. the only thing they're good at is creating problems for president obama and the country. the same day the republicans claim to have a small business plan, they voted against the small business bill. they have nothing for education, job creation or anything else that will move this country forward. boehner is dead wrong. americans are starving for solutions. and the only way we can get solutions if two parties act statesmen-like and work together. five weeks from tomorrow america has a crystal clear choice.

you can stick with the party who voted for health care, financial reform, small business and unemployment benefits, or you can vote for the party of no solutions. they condemn themselves out of their own sound bites but run around the country saying we're going to get hit if we don't vote for them and they're the only way to save the economy to make shire their brothers of the top 2% get all the tax cuts when it's been proven that job isn't going to create any jobs. this is a complete fraud being played on the taxpayers of this country. they ought to be embarrassed what they put out in front of their party last week. they're coming back a few days later saying, well, not really. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think about this tonight, folks. tonight's text survey question is, do you believe republican leadership has solutions for anything? text "a" for yes, "b" for no to 622639. we'll bring you the results later on in the show.

joining me now, democratic congressman jim mcdurmott. >> how are you? >> i'm perplexed they would come out with this plan so to speak and turn to the american people and say they don't understand how big the problem is and they're not ready for solutions. what's your response to that, sir? >> well, ed, as i listen to your presentation, it makes me really angry to hear them say this stuff, because they have resisted working with us on every single proposal we've made. in health care, we had a plan to reduce the impact on small business. they voted no. this week we gave $12 billion in tax cuts to small business. they voted no. i mean, the list is as long as my arm. when they say they have solutions, if we put them in charge, you know, you have to give some evidence of that or at least talk about some.

they won't even talk about what they're going to do. john boehner says, well, first we have to convince the american people there's a problem. hey, john, wake up, they know there's a problem. the question is, what are you going to do about it? and they really -- they really run from any solution we put on the table. they won't work with us. it drives us really -- i mean, it's infuriating. >> congressman, do your constituents get that? i mean, do you run into any resistance at all from people who are saying, gosh, the republicans have really got the good ideas? do you hear that at all out there? >> all i heard this weekend when i got home to seattle was laughter. they said, did you see what those guys said? then on sunday they got up there with a straight face and said it again.

sort of like what groucho mark said, the first thing you do when you go into politics, got to be able to keep a straight safe. they have that down. they can make you believe they have a solution, but there's no evidence anywhere of any solution. >> well, if this tax cut goes through, it would add $4 trillion to the debt of this country. and yet, they offered $16 billion to offset that. how could the democrats not just take that and go to the barn big-time and hammer them on the fact that they're screaming about fiscal responsibility, yet they want to add trillions of dollars to our financial woes? what about that? >> well, that's why we turned down their proposal, because they never want to pay for it. they didn't want to pay for the tax cuts or george bush in 2001 and 2003. they didn't want to pay for the wars. they didn't want to pay for anything. and they still are talking about that the answer to everything is cut taxes. well, frankly, we tried that and we're in the ditch we're in today because we tried that. and there is no sense in going that way again. we need to pay for what we do and we put a program out there.

they said, no, no, we don't like to pay for it because you're taking it away from one of our friends. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight. jim mcdermott of washington. appreciate your time on this monday evening. now let's bring in the small business owner that hosted the republicans' dog and pony show last week. craig fritchey, the president of tart lumber county. nice to have you on "the ed show" tonight. i appreciate your time and thanks for offering up your business to the republicans last week to get involved. i think it's great when businesses are active. >> it's nice to meet you. i'm glad you would have me on to represent small business. >> okay. do you feel the republicans, what the pledge to america, have your interest at heart? >> yes, i do. i realize it is short on some specifics, but the point is that they realized the last time they had control, and i waited most of my life for the republican party to have control of the house and senate and presidency. they knew they blew it. they didn't control spending. they let things get out of control. it's worse now.

we have to get it under control. i'm appreciative they put a stake on the ground and trying to tell you something about what you're going to get when you vote for them. i realize it's short on specifics. i realize politicians don't like to say tough choices are going to be made to get spending down. >> do you think president obama's been genuine in his effort to help small business? and your response to the bill signed that's going to give so many billions of dollars in tax breaks to small businesses. what do you make of all of it? >> i do like that bill. i'm glad they're making efforts to help us borrow money. on the flip side, they're going to raise our taxes. i am, if we get back to profitability, i'll be in that tax bracket. that's the unfair thing where the income has to flow through personal tax returns and makes it harder to buy the fork lift and hire more people. putting me up to a 39.6% tax bracket isn't fair.

>> what about the fact that you're a member of only 2% of the people in this country that would be in that tax bracket, correct? >> sure. but the point is, i take a five-figure salary. we put the money we earn back into the business. the whole reason we're getting through this recession is we saved our money when times were profitable. we had no debt. i lost hundreds of thousands o dollars in 2008 and 2009. i kept everyone on the payroll. i protected their jobs because we believe in our people. that's the way small businesses are, at least our small business. now we are struggling to make sure we can make money again. i would be profitable this year except when my largest customers filed chapter 7 in june. this year, i'll have a $120,000 write-off in december and we'll be in the red. we are getting better. i'll be back to up maybe we can make $400,000, $500,000 credit. i pay plenty of taxes, 41%, 42% will go to the government some way, shape or form. the rest i put into the business to create more jobs.

the small businesses in this country are the ones closest to the problem willing to take a risk, willing to hire one or two more people. with the hundreds of thousands of small businesses in the country, if you let us do it we'll create more jobs. >> 95% of the people aren't in your category. you're very fortunate. congratulations on being successful. with all those taxes you mentioned that you paid, mr. frithce, don't you deserve a government in washington that works together? it took the president 22 months to pass this bill. don't the republicans deserve you at least a little bit more than that? >> i agree with you the biggest problem we have is the partisanship in congress. if the republicans do get elected and we have the same problems we have now, they'll be booted out in two years as well. we have to find a way to work together. >> you can't subscribe to the way the republicans have been operating in the last 22, 23 months. they've said no to everything. they've said no to your business getting better.

>> well, i will say this. we have a trillion dollars -- this is hard to talk about. people cannot fathom these numbers. we have a trillion dollar deficit and $13.4 trillion debt. some of the things we're doing i don't know how we pay for. i don't think it's bad to say no if you're not sure how things are going to be paid for. this happens on both sides. the government doesn't run the same way the small business does. they're racing to spend their money so their budgets don't get cut. in small business we're proud of the fact we can save on cost. in government, let's spend everything that was budgeted otherwise they're going to cut it next year. we have to change that attitude in washington. >> should the tax cuts be made for? the tax cuts during the bush year added trillions of dollars to the debt. it was $2 trillion. it's how you want to solve the problem is what it comes down to. >> it's an honest disagreement. i believe if you can create more jobs and get the economy moving again we'll have a bigger pie to take the taxes from. you get the taxes into high you're going to hurt the economy ten it's all for naught.

>> you're a good sport. appreciate your time on the program. >> thanks for having me. in honor of nbc's education nation campaign i'm revealing one of the biggest problems and threats to learning. this guy. new jersey governor chris christie. i'm taking him to school in the "battleground" story tonight. speaking of school, tea party wacko christine o'donnell proves once again that there are children left behind. wait until you hear what her take is on evolution. all that plus false prophet fraud ster glenn beck. and i'll introduce you to an nfl hall of famer who's spent his life helping children and education. for those of us who have lactose intolerance, let's raise a glass to cookies just out of the oven. to the morning bowl of cereal. and to lactaid® milk.

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senate democrats are fighting to punish companies who ship jobs over seas. the right wing chamber of commerce is doing everything they possibly can to try to kill it. i find that absolutely disgusting and un-american. vermont senator bernie sanders is sponsoring the bill that the senate is going to move on tomorrow. he'll call for economic patriotism in just a moment.

welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. senate democrats are making a last minute push to punish companies to shift jobs overseas and reward companies who keep and create jobs here in the united states. the u.s. chamber of commerce is doing everything in their power to kill this bill.

the bill titled "creating american jobs and ending offshoring act," provides a two-year payroll tax holiday for companies that hire employees in america for jobs that are currently being done overseas. u.s. chamber executive vice president bruce josten sent letters to senators urging them not to pass the bill. josten wrote "replacing a job that is based in another country with a domestic job does not stimulate economic growth or enhance the competitiveness of american worldwide companies." this is the most political the u.s. chamber of commerce has been ever. why did it just happen during the obama administration? big business addiction to cheap labor in my opinion is un-american. they have no sense of economic patriotism anymore and it seems to me the u.s. chamber of commerce wants to protect american jobs in india and doesn't give a damn about jobs in indiana. joining me now is one of the lead sponsors of the bill,

vermont senator bernie sanders. senator, good to have you with us tonight. can you respond to mr. josten's comment about domestic jobs does not stimulate economic growth or enhance competitiveness of american worldwide companies? what about that? >> give you an example, during the bush years, a large multinational corporations in this country threw 2 million american workers off of their payrolls. simultaneously they hired 2 million workers in foreign countries. we have lost during the bush years, alone, 30% of our manufacturing jobs going from 17 million down to 12 million. one of the reasons is the working class in this country is being decimated and the middle class is disappearing is that we're not producing manufacturing jobs in this country. we're not making the products that the american people are buying. and clearly, from the chamber of commerce's point of view, if they could make 5 cents more by shutting down a plant in america and moving to china or moving to india, that's what they will do,

that's what they have been doing. it's an absolute outrage. the demand from the american people must be that if these corporations want us to purchase their products and they certainly do, it's high time they started manufacturing those products here in the united states and putting our people to work so they can in fact buy these products. >> senator, will you get any republican support on this? >> i certainly hope so, because i think all over this country, whether you're republican, whether you're democrat, or whether you're independent, as i am, i american people are sick and tired about the fact they can't buy products manufactured in the united states of america. they're sick and tired of buying products made in china, china, china, mexico, other countries. they would like to see products produced in this country. this is an issue of economic patriotism. i think the chamber of commerce and multinationals are selling the american working people down the drain. we'll keep going all over the world for cheap labor. we have to stop that. >> senator, are these incentives in your opinion, do they go far

enough? only two years? >> no. they don't no anywhere near far enough. what we're talking about now is just tax policy. and modestly at that. what we have got to do is move boldly into trade policy. i voted when i was in the house against nafta, against free trade with china. i think it's time to revisit those policies. trade, ed, is a good thing when it benefits both sides. >> yeah. >> trade is a bad thing when american workers are being forced to compete against people who make 30 cents or 40 cents an hour. >> what do you say to the critics that the democrats are doing this because it's election-year politics? just weeks out from the midterm? >> democrats should have done this two years ago. they should have done it four years ago. they should do it today, tomorrow. this is a hugely important issue. the real question is, why is it so hard for us to get a couple republicans to stand up to the big money interest and corporate america on this issue? >> what did you make of john boehner's comment about americans aren't ready for solutions?

>> i think americans are crying out for solutions. >> yeah. >> they understand that we cannot go back to the people who caused this economic crisis in the first place. >> senator, good to have you with us tonight. congratulations on being a part of this. this is really the key. this is why we are losing jobs in this country. because of the outsourcing. this is why we have high unemployment. it's this culture of a race to the bottom line and the economic patriotism for only a few, i mean, it really is -- this is where we are. i don't know how we're going to replenish these jobs. it's good to see the democrats who care about people do something about it. good to have you with us. up next, christine o'donnell is evolving into an all-star psycho talker. first team, i'd say. she went off about mice with fully functioning human brains. now she's talking about monkeys? i'm tracing her roots back to the zonefection.

and in "psycho talk" tonight, education is the theme of the day on msnbc. this morning president obama told matt lauer he wanted to hire 10,000 new math and science teachers. it's because of children getting left behind like this one. >> american scientific companies are cross breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.

you know what, evolution -- evolution is a myth, and even darwin, himself -- >> evolution is a myth? >> you know what -- >> have you ever looked at a monkey? >> then why aren't monkeys still evolving into humans? >> christine the teenage witch is, my friends, exhibit "a" in the case for hiring more science teachers in america. and if the texas school board has anything to say about it we're going to get a whole new generation of americans who are just like her. saying evolution is a myth, because we're not seeing monkeys turn into humans before our eyes, is ridiculous uneducated "psycho talk." coming up, new jersey governor chris christie is a huge problem for our schools. he gives money back to millionaires and he takes it away from our kids' futures. dennis van roek l, the president of the national education social has a lesson plan for his next. the beckster's talk about violence from the left has spun out of control. this loser is warning of dangerous killers showing up.

all that, plus how about alan grayson compares his challenger to the taliban? in a serious conversation with a supreme court justice from minnesota on education. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc. ♪ hi, a number two please? would you like that to hurt now, or later? uh, what? sir, it's a simple question, do you want heartburn pain now or later?

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welcome back to "the ed show." and the "battleground" story, new jersey governor's chris christie's assault on our nation's teachers. i figured while we're focusing on education i'd do my part and expose this guy as public enemy number one when it comes to schools. he slashed public education funding more than $800 million and gave tax cuts to millionaires in new jersey. when he's not hollering at meg whitman, he's going after teachers and unions in new jersey. it's an attack on labor and our children will be worse off for it.

where is the moral compass when it comes to educating our young children in this country? is it all about the dollar or about performance and making things work in america? joining me now, dennis van rok l. good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> what is your response to some on the radical things that have taken place in education? how education is now becoming a political target as it was in new jersey. >> you know, it's sad to me. i grew up in a small town in iowa, and my parents, my community members, and my teachers all told me whatever dream i had education was the way i could get there. i was lucky. i got to live my dream. i was a high school math teacher for 23 years. it just seems sad to me that right now for political expediency we somehow want to shut that off. in new jersey, they have one of the greatest systems in america. pride and public education. why cut it? >> how am i or anybody else watching today supposed to believe they happen to have

6,000 incompetent teachers and they all had to be cut? it's all about the money, isn't it? >> yeah, you know, what's not understood is when you eliminate 6,000 adults who work in those schools, there's not one less student coming to school which means higher class sizes which means elimination of programs and special services to students that are no longer provided. we ought to invest in education. investment in education pays every single time. that should be the last places we try and cut moneys, not the first. >> this is the president of the united states today talking about hiring 10,000 more teachers. here it is. >> my administration is announcing that we are going to specifically focus on training 10,000 new math and science teachers. we've got to boost performance in that area. we used to rank at the top. we are now 21st in science, 25th in math. >> what about that, mr. van roekel? >> i agree with the president.

we need to focus on recruiting a whole new generation of teachers. we know the next ten years so many of our teachers are going to be retiring. interms of s. t.e.m., science, technology, engineering and math, building that begins in the elementary schools. our elementary teachers play an important role in building the interest of mathematics. following high school we have to keep them in those fields and encourage them to go into teaching. >> the teachers union has been vilified. make the case, why should a teacher join the union? >> my first year of teaching i honestly believed if i worked hard enough and cared enough about each of my students i could deliver what i needed. the reality comes while i'm teaching in the classroom every single decision is made by a policymaker outside of education. my involvement, my membership in the education was my way of getting my voice into that mix. if you're going to make policy

about what's best for students, please include my voice as a teacher because i'm with them every single day. for me the association is necessary. >> well, in "time" magazine, a poll shows that 67% of the american people think that public schools are in crisis. do you agree with that number? >> i think the world has changed dramatically in the last 50 years, and we have to reassess what we want public education to accomplish. what's its purpose in the 21st century? 50 years ago there were jobs in agriculture and manufacturing and some of the students didn't need that career and college readiness because they were career ready as soon as they dropped out of school. that's not true today. >> are school vouchers a threat to public education in your opinion? >> i think the biggest threat to public education is the debate that says somehow it's not important. we have to understand as a nation that the bedrock, the future is dependent on a strong vibrant public education system. every student ought to have a great public school no matter where they live, no matter who they are. >> this is the president talking and addressing the dropout rates.

here it is. >> you can't defend a status quo in which a third of our kids are dropping out. you can't defend a status quo when you have 2,000 schools across the country that are dropout factories where more than half of the kids are dropping out. in those schools you have to have radical change. >> what kind of radical change would you suggest or go along with to turn those numbers around, mr. van roekel? >> i agree with the president that the status quo is not acceptable. what we're doing as a union, the school improvement grants which are aimed and targeted to schools under performing, the ones president obama was talking about, every single one of those schools that receive funds, we're going to include in priority schools campaign. we don't call them high-need schools. we believe they ought to be high priority. we're going to part with them and say, get management, school board, employees and their union at the table. reach out to parents in the community and decide together what are we going to do differently to ensure our

students have a bright future? >> is that dropout rate a resource issue? >> absolutely. we have to come up with new programs and resources to meet their needs. currently we are not. >> thank you for being with us. the obama administration wants to wiretap the internet so that they can catch criminal and terror suspects who communicate online. and flame-throwing democratic congressman alan grayson of florida is out with another tough campaign commercial comparing his republican challenger to the taliban. with us tonight, sirius xm radio talk show host joe madison and radio talk show most michael medved. michael, we have to keep america safe so we better let the government check our e-mail, don't you think? what do you think of this? >> this is another example of an area where president obama has followed the lead of the bush administration and wisely so.

how's that closure of guantanamo going? the truth of the matter is especially when you have people like al alocky calling for the death of literally hundreds of thousands of americans it is important our counterterror efforts continue and they also include the internet. >> what do you think, joe? >> i'm one who might take a different viewpoint on this. i may surprise you. most of the necessary need for this comes from local law enforcement agents who are trying to catch drug dealers and people who do kidnapping. and now because they can't tap the basement wire like they used to, just go, get a court order, tap the wire, now it's internet, now it's cyber space. and you need this permission. the problem we have, and i think we all agree with this, is we don't trust government when it comes to looking at the average citizen's internet response. there's the real dig.

this may be a national security issue because times have changed, ed. it's not the old wiretapping like it used to be. >> well, i totally agree with you on that, joe. the fact is that the american people have got to be guaranteed there's going to be some oversight. >> that's the point. >> and not some targeting taking place. >> who's going to do the oversight? right. >> that's true. you get people -- you get a political team in power and they go after people personally any way they want to and could create a picture of someone that's not very favorable. is this necessary, the oversight, michael? how are you going to do it? >> some oversight is necessary. >> some? >> we always have with our wiretapping efforts. the truth of the matter is, look, people say all the time you guys on the right don't give the president any credit. i do give the president credit in his general conduct of our counterterror operations. he gets credit like president bush deserves credit for having

kept us safe for the time he's been in office. i hope he continues. >> gosh, you're getting soft michael, what's going on here? >> keeping america safe -- >> you read my book. that's what you did. you read my book. that really softened you up quite a bit. gentlemen, we are just going to give the obama administration and the government just free rein to go into the internet? i mean, i think you're going to have to have new measures of oversight to make sure that people's lives are still going to be safe personally. i mean, this is how political people -- how people are politically destroyed and the wrong people get the wrong power. who knows what you're going to come up with. >> we both -- i think all three of us came up doing that here. especially in the civil rights movement where it was just abusive. and there's the real concern. so just announcing that i want this without the oversight, you're absolutely right, everybody's right here. who's going to do it?

>> i understand -- >> do you trust them? >> i understand catching criminals and catching terror suspects and all that kind of stuff, but i also know people in government can do some pretty tough things if they want to if they're not checked out. all right. the flame-throwing democratic congressman alan grayson has the hearts, the love and respect of many, many progressives across this country. he's come out with a blockbuster commercial. here it is. calling it his opponent the taliban. here it is. >> i'm. >> i'm congressman alan grayson. >> religious fanatics try to take away freedom in afghanistan, iran and in central florida. >> why submit yourself to your own husband? >> dan yell webster wants to impose radical fundamentalism on us. webster tried to deny battered women made medical care and right to divorce abusers. >> submit to me. >> he wants to force raped women to bear the child. >> submit to me. >> taliban dan webster, hands off our bodies and laws. >> joe madison, is that over the top? >> yes. i mean, it really honestly is.

he doesn't have to do it that way. i mean, what he said, obviously, he's taking daniel webster's words, but this association with the taliban, look, we're at war with the taliban. we're not at war with daniel webster and the radical right. they're not shooting women in the back of the heads. they're not stoning women. i mean, i hate to put it like this, but it's over the top. grayson doesn't have to do this. he's got a great record to run on. that's what i wish he would do is run on his record. >> it just seems to me this is an indication of how desperate and how worried alan grayson is. he has a ton of money. he's raised as much money i believe as any democrat running for re-election in the country. if he has to use his money like this, to talk about a veteran politician and a veteran officeholder in the state of florida, and to compare him with the taliban, this is also a deeply bigoted ad.

because if he is saying that people who are evangelical christians, with whom he may disagree religiously, are people with whom you're going to compare to the taliban and compare to killers and oppressors and terrorists, it's completely unconscionable. too typical of grayson. >> let's be careful now. he's not the only one doing this. i mean, you know, we do have people on the right who have compared obama to hitler, to marx -- >> that's the key point. that's why i think -- >> this is not every congressman, either. when you say very few -- >> that's why this is such a very important point here. because for once there is a liberal out there willing to play on your home field there, michael medved. he's taking it right to you the same way the republicans have done it to liberals and democrats. i think the bigger point here is this guy's views on women is clearly out of the mainstream. and of course, so is the taliban.

>> again, if you want to debate some of the actual issues and what dan webster has called for in terms of legislation, that's perfectly legitimate. >> that's weak. >> but to take a speech that he gave in church out of context and attack him for his religious viewpoint, is playing dirty pool. >> if republicans, if republicans left the politics at the alter and didn't talk about it when they got up on the stage i would go along with that. they have politicized churches in this country in a big, big way. michael medved, joe madison, got to run, gentlemen. up next, i'm introducing you to a true american. alan page, former nfl great mvp turned minnesota supreme court justice for the last 18 years. this man has dedicated his life to helping young people. it's a story that needs to be told in the "playbook."

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long term care insurance underwritten by genworth life insurance company, and in new york, genworth life insurance company of new york. call now or go online for free information. in my "playbook" tonight, education nation has been the theme here on the network for the last several days. our story tonight is about a man who has made a difference to thousands of young people across america and in his home state of minnesota. you may remember this man, alan page from the nfl days, playing days with the minnesota vikings. he was the mvp of the nfl back in 1971. a tremendous book, has been written about his remarkable life titled "all rise." i think it is a roadmap to a role model. page is currently serving on the minnesota state supreme court where he has been a justice for the last 18 years. judge page spoke with me recently about the value of education and how we as a country cannot let public education become the political football some have made it.

what do you make of the political climate today in this country when, for lack of a better term, public education becomes such a political football? >> we are at a time when everything, everything becomes a political football. from the minuscule to the most important. education is a pretty important thing. and we don't do anybody any favors by politicizing it. we have to figure out how, from whatever perspective we come from, to set aside our sort of political interests and figure out what's best for children. and then act on that as opposed to posturing to try to seek some benefit of some sort. >> and we're not doing a good job with that?

>> well, in minneapolis, for students of color, and i don't have the precise number in front of me, but roughly 50%, maybe a little bit more than that, drop out. we can't be doing a good job if that's happening. >> why is that? is it the home? or is it the school? >> it's home life. it's what goes on in the school. that creates what -- it all comes from the home, but i don't know that things are that dramatically different than -- today than they were when i was in school. >> do we not do a good job of teaching responsible in public education? >> let me put it this way.

when all is said and done, more is said than done. >> more of my sit-down interview tomorrow with alan page. he's a role model for america. he has the page education foundation which has brought a lot of kids not only to the classroom but to community. i'll explain tomorrow night here on "the ed show." and coming up, glenn beck, this guy, he's lost his mind on the other hand. spirits are telling him dangerous killers are coming. every time he opens his mouth we're all in danger. my message to the golden boy next. stay with us. [ female announcer ] it can creep up on you. dry skin. that's why there's lubriderm® daily moisture. it contains the same nutrients naturally found in healthy skin. skin absorbs it better and it lasts for 24 hours. later gator. lubriderm. your moisture matched.

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and finally tonight, the false prophet glenn beck took time away from shilling gold today to preach about government growing out of control. the beckster was freaking out saying government uses fear tactics to scare us. he has some nerve talking about the government using fear tactics. this is coming from the guy warning everyone for months how violence is coming from the left. today he took it a step further. >> they're going on the paradigm of fear now. i told you this would happen. i told you just last week that i believe these are the most dangerous two years of our republic. because in the end, in revolutions, the real dangerous killers show up when things start to fall apart. when the nudge moves to shove and the shove doesn't work, the killers show up.

it happens every time. >> absolute psycho talk. this guy is completely reckless. i think for a broadcaster to be sounding an alarm about dangerous killers is absolutely disgusting and it really needs to stop. do they have any moral compass at all when it comes to being in front of a microphone? he has followers. joining me now is senior fellow at media matters for america. eric, where does this stop? >> that's a good question. i mean, a year ago they were talking about, you know, the obama administration is part of a march toward tyranny, then it became very open that this was becoming nazi germany. and now he's just talking about killing people. i mean, it is crazy, and it's insane, and as you mentioned he does have followers. the subliminal message for a year or so that glenn beck was telling viewers was, do something. you know? this country is out of control, obama was elected in order to destroy this country.

and now there's supposedly there's this wave of violence that's coming. it's really -- what's creepy is it's almost a preemptive justification for violence from the right. saying they're going to attack you, they're going to come after you with killers. and so if people on the right act out, it might be okay. the whole thing is really nonsense and it's really off the charts and it's creepy. >> i think it's important for those of us who have the opportunity to broadcast in front of a microphone, in front of a camera, to challenge him on that. >> yep. >> he used the word "revolution." >> yeah. >> do we need to ask the question, is that what he wants? >> well, that's a good question. and what is he talking about? i mean, he's talking about a democratic administration that's passed some legislation. i mean, how is this some sort of, you know, violent uprising? how is this some sort of revolution? how is this armageddon in our times? it doesn't make sense. what's creepy, again, he's starting to sound like sort of a store-front preacher.

you know, not only does he have this hate rhetoric, but in the last couple weeks he's starting to cloak it in this religious talk. he was talking today about how progressives are the enemy of god and darkness is looming and things like that. it's one thing to be a hatemongerer like rush limbaugh. he wants other people to hate him so he'll lie about him. beck has this weird shtick where he's going to cloak it in religion. it's insanely offensive. >> is his audience growing? >> it's about the same. you know, it's been about the same for the last six or nine months. it hasn't grown despite his big march on washington and things like that. there's no question he has a sizable audience. for him to be talking about how progressives are enemies of god and killers looming is incredibly -- >> good to have you with us tonight. tonight in our survey question, do republican leadership have answers for anything? 11% said yes, 89% said no. that's "the ed show." for more information on saturday's one nation march in washington, d.c., go to wegoted.com.